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One time Scientologist Chuck Beatty shortly after he left Scientology,  from the top of Griffith Park, overlooking Los Angeles

Dear Gerry and Arnie,

Thanks for your recent communication, I spoke to each of you on the phone, and had several email cycles.

Here is my first post, coming out fully, I put this on the Clambake discussion site:

Chuck Beatty

Chuck Beatty in the Pittsburgh Gazzette.

New report regarding violence and restraints against members of the labor camp at gold base, the international HQ which tells the locals that it is " Golden Era Productions"

Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 4:49 am:

Hello, my name is Chuck Beatty.

I recently (Aug 2004) made several posts, using the name: CE.

I am CE. My name is Chuck Beatty. CE stood for my first and middle names, Charles Edward Beatty.

I finally got enough nerve to use my name. Thanks to many people's encouragement, and several other ex-SO member's fine examples, I now speak freely.

My Sea Org time track is 27 years long, and I'm relatively recently fully out (Dec 75 to Mar 03).

Here is a breakdown of my timetrack, and I am open to any and all questions regarding any aspect of my track:

Dec 75 to Mar 77. Tech Training Corps at Flag Service Org. Failed on my route to being Class 12 auditor, got up Level III on the Academy levels.

July 77 to Jul 83 Course Supervisor and Word Clearer for the Org Exec Course at Flag. (I made thousands of acquaintences in my years as a Flag course supervisor, most old-timers know me from these days, when I supervised or word cleared them on various training courses they did at Flag during those years.)

Jul 83 to Oct 87, I assisted on the Routing Forms project that produced the computerized routing forms used in all Class 5 orgs today. (Went to the Int Base, Gilman Hot Springs, outside Hemet California, first in Jul 83, and went there off and on over the next 4 years for routing forms matters)

Nov 87 to Aug 88, Course Supervisor in "retraining," and became the Sec Checker School Course Supervisor, at the Int Training Org, then at the big blue building, known as the "Complex."

Sept 88 to Jan 89, Researcher/Compiler on the Org Exec Course Checksheet project run by Senior C/S Int Office, at the Int Base. Failed on my project.

Jan 89 to Feb 89, Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), the one for the uplines people, situated at Happy Valley ranch, 14 miles from the Int Base, adjacent to the Svoboba Indian reservation. Enjoyed it, but that's me. Thought the people were generally great, both at the Int Base and on the RPF. Much milder than the "bad old days" so horrendously documented on the internet by older-timers than me.

Feb 89 to May 89, Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) at the big blue building, (the "Complex,") in LA. Again, a great time for me. I loved the work. There were 240 plus people on the PAC RPF then. Worked 2 shifts, finishing the renovations on the HGB (Hollywood Guarantee Building, middle management building on Hollywood Blvd, just down the street from the Hollywood Inn).

May 89 to Aug 89, Org Exec Course supervisor, Int Training Org, at the newly renovated HGB building.

Sept 89 to Sept 90, Routing Forms Project under INCOMM LA (and I was once or twice at RTC Int spaces and INCOMM Int spaces also.)

Sept 90 to May 92, INCOMM computer rooms at LA and Int, worked as the night person, doing computer backups and maintenance, then later as the Daytime computer operations officer at INCOMM LA.

May 92 - Aug 95, Author Services Incorporated computer person.

Sept 95 to Dec 95, failed miserably as Exec Establishment Officer ASI.

Dec 95 to Jul 96, deckwork at the Int base. Great work, great people on the decks at that time. Really enjoyed it so much, I would have liked to remain a construction worker there. Had anyone realized this and kept me there, I might not be making this post today.

Jul 96 to Nov 2000, Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF), again at the Happy Valley ranch, 14 miles from the Int Base. Really liked this RPF, but hated being kept there against my will. Loved the food, work, people there, scenery, but hated the captivity. (Saw the German news helicopters, and was hiding inside one of the red trailers when those films and photos were taken.)

Nov 2000 to Mar 2003, Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) again back at the big blue building, the "Complex", in LA. Again a great time for me, loved the old complex building, renovating it. Hated with a passion being under constant "watch" for over a year, and I was elated when I finally was free to walk off the property and take control of my life at along last.

Mar 29, 2003 to Jun 2004, I worked in LA, simple job, and read thousands of pages of internet anti-Scn sites. Read all the data on NOTs scholars, all the confidential material, everything. I spent my spare time exploring LA, getting to know the city, hiking all of the mountain ranges around the city. I really got to know the city I had lived in for 22 years, finally.

Jul 2004, I have moved to Pittsburgh, and live with my sister. My plans are to move around to each of my family members, living and working nearby each of them.

I am twice divorced (both my ex's are in the Sea Org and are great women. Ann Halblom Beatty, I think is Dissem Sec or Reg at CC Int. Janet Parker, is Invest Files at OSA Int.)

I will answer any and all questions about any moment in my Scientology history.

I plan to make posts about what I think are the main reasons the Scn movement is not succeeding, compared to its claims, and why I feel they will not suceed, which is why I left.

I've become an agnostic, I no longer hold any Scn beliefs. I am an existentialist, secular humanist (as best I understand those concepts).

I respect almost all Sea Org members still in the SO, and enjoyed working with them. I respect Scn members religious beliefs, but do not share any of them any longer.

I also respect the work of the many people who have created the internet sites and particularly think the work of Gerry Armstrong and Arnie Lerma (while I know posters have all variety of opinions about everyone and every site), have been particularly the most helpful for me. I've spoken to both of them on the phone, and am grateful they have stuck it out, and keep on going. Hats off to them both.

I will answer any and all questions about any moment in my Scientology history.

Chuck Beatty (CE)

My INCOMM experience.

My association with INCOMM started back at Flag. I was a course supervisor at ITO (Int Training Org, which was a part of the old Qual Bu FB in 1979, and LRH in spring of 79 suggested to Greg Wilhere, then head of the ITO, to make it a separate org, which he did, keeping it placed in the Qual Bu FB). In spring 1981, INCOMM (not yet named such) was being planned.

There was a CMO Int Mission, called MCM (Mission Computerize Management), headed by Foster Tompkins (whom you surely remember, as he may have swung by Bridge or Pubs WUS back in the late 70's). The 2nd for the MCM (Mission Computerize Management) was Chuck Prenner. Chuck had been the Qual Sec ITO, so I knew him well. In fact I trained him on his OEC, and also his wife, Noomi Prenner, both on their OEC's at the ITO in 79-80. I was slightly disappointed to see them go off to the MCM, and MCM then evolved into INCOMM in 1981. ITO lost Chuck Prenner, Noomi Prenner, Barbara Tompkins (Foster's wife), Jorae Tibbits and one other person, to form much of the top exec corps of INCOMM when it formed in 1981. So I knew these former ITO staff well. But at that time, 81, I stayed at ITO until summer 1983, when I was nabbed (for my policy knowledge and encyclopedic reference handy abilities which I'd honed as the OEC/FEBC sup at ITO), and I went to CMO Int at Gilman Hot Springs (Hemet), and became the writing researcher person on the "Routing Forms Mission".

The Routing Forms Mission was supposed to tie in with INCOMM, in that the routing forms were being printed on paper, and designed with little boxes to be filled out in pencil, that could be read and scanned into a computer, and thus INCOMM was going to program the computer to suck in all the data off the completed routing forms that the orgs were going to receive, and this was a whole major strategic element in the original "Int Strategy" of 1982. You may or may not have heard of this, but it was THE strategy of the 80's, it was called WDC ED 86-3 (which means it was issue number Watchdog Committee 83, addition 3). (WDC EDs are CMO Int level issues only, but because this particular WDC issue was so important, the term "86-3" was the buzzword at CMO Int for the "Int Strategy", and that "strat" was known by all to be LRH's last Int strategy, and the final one he authored. Because it was so important, it's nickname "86-3" even filtered down to middle management, the FB, which was just moving from Clearwater out to LA. Therefore for years in the 80's the "86-3" strat was stable datum around which ALL of Int management's actions revolved. 86-3 had three parts, and one of the three parts was the "Routing Forms Project", which was the project I was on. LRH separately with his advices to Foster Tompkins on what LRH envisioned the computer could do (the famous "Chug Advices", which I've read numerous times and I suspect you will want the lowdown on what they say, which I will tell you in due course), LRH planned for the MCM mission to computerize managing, so the computer would basically do evals, issue orders, and run orgs like existing management does. That is what INCOMM was to do, computerize management completely, and replace the managers with a computer that monitored orgs, evaluated, issued orders, and got execution.

For years this was worked on by INCOMM, to varying success. (LRH and Foster Tompkins, in my humble opinion of ALL the advices I have seen, exchanged the longest, most intense of comm cycles. Foster was pretty brilliant at engaging LRH's mind, and LRH went on a major role on computerization ideas, with he issued as orders to Foster in the INCOMM advices.) Foster triggered LRH and LRH went on a role, page after page, going into whole-track stories about the "Duke of Chug" from some ancient galactic empire who was embezzling his planet, the computer picked up the traces of the embezzlement, checked Chug's bank accounts, found the embezzled funds, the computer looks for the person who will have to replace Chug's position now that Chug is soon to be arrested, etc. The computer orders the replacement to report to Chug's planet for duty, and the computer orders the Galactic police to arrest Chug and he's sentenced by the computer to be executed, and duly, Chug is executed. All with the "press of a button!" Anyway, INCOMM has not been able to fully execute these advices in the years I was associated with them. INCOMM was able to do quite a lot, but not yet have they been able to "replace" management, nor do evals with the computer. A lot of time and unbelievable amount of programming has been done, but they're not there.

Most of the 80's INCOMM did what was called "TNT", which stood for "Target, Nudge and Tally", which was using the computer to keep track of programs, step by step, and Nudge and Tally up the targets. The whole FB and Int staffs all got INCOMM trained to "load" their programs, target by target, onto the computer, and then "run" the programs on each other, nudging each other, reporting compliance; and the computer tallied it all up. When a program was marked as complete, then the program was done.

This went on for years, all through the 80's, and was one main activity of INCOMM. Another main INCOMM program was called "Orders Logging", which was for Miscavige, possibly LRH originally. I don't know to what extent the original INCOMM guys provided this to LRH, but I believe the "Orders Logging" program was for LRH originally, and Miscavige, and then others later, used it, as it trickled down to normal users. In the 80's I remember that anyone at any echelon could use Orders Logging, in the end. It simply kept track of a person's orders, with a number, and kept nudging the person up until the order was complete. Various versions of Orders Logging tied into the LRH Comm policy about escalating cramming and ethics gradients on the person who was non-compliant. The Orders Logging program went through several evolutions. In 1993-94 when I was the Int Computer room operations officer, (night shift,) I remember Miscavige still was using Orders Logging. Nothing particularly sinister about it, nor any of the INCOMM computer programs I worked with.

I notice myself getting lost, sidetracked trying to relay the INCOMM programming, as they can lead off into the dull ordinary daily stuff. Possibly I can do a year by year rough categorization of the main INCOMM programs, and descriptions. 83 message system/stats system/Orders Logging

84-89 TNT (written programs tracked, nudged and tallied by the computer.)
Computerization of the routing forms.
Message system for all of Int and middle mangement.
Stat evolution totally on computer for Int and middle mgmt.
Personnel data base for Int and middle mgmt.
SP data base (list of all SPs and ex-SO) (used by Snr HCO and OSA and RTC.)
Org Flag Officer system totally on computer now.
Computerized Data Files system (scanned paper items, and text messages.)
LRH Copyrights system (now located at ASI, where the Copyrights Officer is now posted, her name is Alison Fine.)
Specialized Data Base systems for various units to replace virtually all paper file systems, and indexing systems.

Myself, I worked from 84 till 87 solely on the Routing Forms part of the 86-3 strategy, and in 87, I burned out, got busted. I was in and out of the INCOMM LA space during those years.

Not until 1989, when I got pulled back into the Routing Forms Project again, (this time as INCOMM staff where I got promoted to) then I went and spent more and more time in the Int Computer room, and observed how it was run. (Not sure what you want to know about it, there is endless details I could go into.) In 1990 about Oct, I started being the night operator at the LA computer room. LA at that time had about a 11 million dollar computer room, equipment costs alone (not including the physical flooring, walls, etc.). All the computers I worked with from 90-92 are now sold and gone, they are now obsolete.

The routing forms consisted of a two-part tactical plan, of feeding the computer with raw data. From 83-87 I worked tp help get the computerized routing forms printed, into use, and back to the computer to be fed into computer databases. INCOMM was able to have the computer issue reports, that I then edited, cleaned up slightly, and sent to ED's of orgs telling them little things about what they should do in their orgs. It was a feeble beginning to part of the Chug Advices (Chug Advices and INCOMM advices are interchangable, and refer to all the LRH advices to INCOMM -- about 95 % to Foster Tompkins). So I worked for years with INCOMM, from the computerized routing forms angle. I was fully genned in on the INCOMM advices from my part, so I knew how the routing forms were to fit in with the overall bigger picture that INCOMM had to accomplish. The routing forms by themselves were a success, and in 1984, all by themselves, when they were implemented in the Class 4 orgs, the stats rose. Ever since then and until now, the routing forms have been pretty successful, and a stable adminstrative feature in all orgs. I worked in the "bullet proof" control room that was supposed to stop people shooting their way into the computer room. I was instructed by the INCOMM security guard how to manually execute the "one button" program that would erase ALL of the sensitive OSA computer files. The OSA computers were about 3 of the total 40 INCOMM computers in the LA computer room. The really hot OSA computer with all the sensitive stuff they'd want to have erased if the FBI showed up, and were all kept in one connected stack of computer disks. The security guard who instructed me on the procedure was Hank Gould. He himself didn't keep alerting me to these special duties, and it was more HIS responsibility to run into the computer room, since he was given access, and he was the one who periodically came in, and went right up the OSA Int computer, and did his little drill, like he was typing in the commands to erase all the data on the computer. From what I recall if the program was really run, it would take several minutes to erase all the data on the OSA sensitive databases, on these old WICAT computers that INCOMM had in 1990-92 when I was there. So after Hank's initial instructions to me, Hank didn't expect me to run in and erase the OSA data bases, he was settled on doing this himself. Later in 1991 when I got temporarily transferred to hold the night shiift up at the Int Computer Room, the guy who ran the Int Computer room, Rog Kernbach, didn't gen me in on the erase program. If it existed at the Int INCOMM site, he ran it. Hank was obsessed with his security duties at INCOMM. Hank was the person who drove the magnetic tapes off to a confidential storage facility somewhere around LA, where ALL the data from ALL the LA computers and ALL the Int computers were kept. Wherever that was, I never found out.

I knew Tom Rummelhart, the guy who flipped out, sent the OSA report to the FBI or wherever he sent it. That was great! Oh boy, good thing I had gotten promoted out of INCOMM by then, otherwise I would have been toasted too back then.

Editors note - this is the infamous "Miss Blood" operation run on Ex-Flag Cramming Officer Dennis Erlich's ISP - Tom Klemesrud.)

But by the time of the Tom R flap, I was safely at ASI. I did get pulled over and Sec Checked to ensure I wasn't doing anything like Tom R, and I passed my sec check and kept my post, which was the ASI Computer Operations Officer, at that time. But all of INCOMM staff sure got the shaft, except the Int Computer guys: Rog, Pat Buglewitz, John Dunn and James Perry. They got off much lighter than the rank and file guys at LA. The Int INCOMM guys went through far less ethics, I know because I was able to call them, like normal on the phone, which I did almost daily, from ASI. At ASI, I always had questions of things that came up, and I was calling Rog, John Dunn and James Perry almost 3-10 times a week. The Tom R flap at INCOMM went on for months. Tom R should not have been in the SO, he didn't have the mindset, he was way too green, and couldn't tolerate the totalitarian BS like a regular good older SO member learns to tolerate. It is too bad Tom R's mischievousness didn't get an even greater hold on him. He might have sent off a lot more sensitive material to the Justice Dept or LA Times, or something. That would have been something. I think it funny now, but I could never have done that, at those times when I had the same access and computer power as Tom R did. Tom replaced me as the LA Day Operator in May 92 when I went to be the ASI Computer Operations Officer in May 92. He was far more qualled than me. I was a self-taught computer room person and Tom R has a Masters from Cal-Tech Poly here in the LA area. He's a serious tech nerd. I'd like to see and talk to him someday. We'd worked together in the LA computer room off and on for a year together. That whole INCOMM flap that Dan Garvin wrote so well about - what an overkill RTC did on that. Norman Starkey was the I/C, two or three of the top RTC sec checkers were on that mission, etc.

It was serious overkill, and the rank and file caught the most shit, as Dan laid out. Guys like the Int INCOMM guys all got off the hook and me, I totally got off the hook, having been promoted to ASI's computer room. ASI's computer room was a dream, since at ASI there were only 28 staff to service compared to the LA or Int where the computer operator's public was 500 to 1000 staff to service. I being the hardworking type, went downhill over the years. I was lured into the out-ethics upper echelon of less work with the same 12 hour days, but only with a lot of finger-twiddling, and doing insignificant computering for higher ups. When I was at ASI, around 94 Norman and Maria Starkey got removed as ED ASI and ED ASI Communicator, and they went uplines and did the decks, and filtered into RTC staff in 95, which is where I last saw them hanging out, (in 96) when I finally left the base and went down the road to "Happy Valley" where the Int/Gold RPF was. At ASI I disliked Barbara Ruiz, (who may be ED ASI currently, I am not sure.) She was one screaming bitch. For her alone I couldn't take staying at ASI, and in Sept 95, I was promoted from Computer Operations Officer to Exec Esto ASI.

When Exec Esto, I realized I would have to handle Barbara's lack of understanding of English, and boy did I not want to do that. I failed on HCO lines, which are part of the Esto duties, to be able to handle getting new personnel, and I torpedoed myself and set myself up for the RPF, to make my exit from ASI.

The other ASI staff I liked: John Allcock, great guy. Most were in the upper level advanced state of fog, mixed with lots of access to wog life goodies, that ASI staff have.

To succeed at ASI you almost have to overcome a repulsion for middle class (upper middle class) trinketry (eg, 500 dollar suits and clothing, 40 dollar haircuts. My worst was my 350 dollar shoes which were the same model as a pair of shoes Travolta wore at one time). I couldn't take the mindset, and went spluey. But at ASI, we got the "OSA passarounds". The OSA passarounds are the daily news clippings of ALL the bad news and good news clipped from the news services. I then read about Vaughn Young and Stacy Young. I read about Archives.

I heard every bad angle of every news story. I then starting getting paranoid that I someday was going to turn into another defector, Vaughn being the last. I being nowhere of his caliber, could not help the bad thoughts that I was headed out into the same territory as Vaughn; using my insider knowledge to paint the picture as it was on the inside, so that those outside could see what it was like.

That I could not shake, and could not hide, and the thought that I was always going to come out and spill all the beans that I could, never left me. Now, 8 years later, here I am telling you, doing the exact things I feared, while I was sitting in my swivel chair in my air-conditioned little computer operations office - safe in the bowels of the ASI computer room, on the 4th floor of the ASI building on Hollywood Blvd, living the perk lifestyle of an ASI staffer; getting $250 take home per week, and paying a piddling to the Estates Org for rent ($60 per week.) ASI was an out-exchange lifestyle compared to the lifestyle of the rest of the Sea Org members at LA and at Int, particularly the Gold staff. They get it the worst. The worst schedules and many times with no pay, (worse pay scene for Gold staff than the LA orgs.)

There was a heartlessness from CMO Int and Exec Strata staff towards Gold staff over the years I had the opportunity to notice the small things in people's lives while I was uplines. LRH in advices at Int, about Gold staff was pretty brutal over the years, and that "look down your nose" mindset towards the Gold staff was adopted automatically by CMO Int, Exec Strata and RTC staff towards Gold staff.

All this I realize might go right over your head interest wise, but at Int there is always a major climatic ebb and flow of vibes towards the orgs doing well, and those doing poorly, and each week at the Friday night briefing that Miscavige does and did for years - for all Int base staff, he defines which was the wind is blowing, and everyone looks down their noses in the correct direction. I hated that. I hated seeing Gold staff getting dumped on and blamed for the worst goofs routinely. And Gold staff are mainly made up of all the busted staff from CMO Int, RTC and Exec Strata. So at Int there was (and I am sure still is, because Miscavige has it ingrained and it won't go away until he goes away), this tension. And Gold staff are the low men on the totem pole. Sometimes you can see Gold staff look on a higher org staffer like "if you keep that up, you'll be joining me in Gold, and we'll see how well you survive down here!!" I thought that many times myself, like if Miscavige were busted to one of the hot Gold posts, and denied funding, denied all-hands assistance, how well he could get the lower level posts done, and get some of his own medicine. On the Internnet Scn critical sites, there is often talk of the harshness in Scn and the SO, while at Int, there is a cruel ingrained mix, which I have just given you a slight glimpse of. The RTC staff who are stable, meaning there is no real threat of them getting kicked out of RTC and busted down to Gold, they are like a sort of royal set. CMO Int is much more volatile, with only a few CMO Int staffers that are so entrenched, they won't move up to the RTC level, and won't ever get busted down to the Gold level. Exec Strata, there is only ED Int himself who has lasted the years, all the other Exec Strata heads have either gone on to CMO Int, or done to Gold over the years. The exception was Dianna Hubbard, as DSIEI (Div Six Exec Int), who was pretty stable. She had been off lines, elsewhere, then came back onto the scene uplines in the late 80's as a Gold staff member, and then in the 90's moved back up to DSIEI, and that's where she is now I believe. Anyway, I need some tips on ordering of my writings. I will strive to make this less rambling, and more readable. From INCOMM to these last sentences - whew, I get lost in my thoughts. Enough for this message, which I was trying to just stay on INCOMM.

I'll talk to you later. I'll try to pick up the INCOMM thread after you respond to this. Chuck

Chuck Beatty on INCOMM Part 2:

Physical location of INCOMM LA. It is in the ground floor of the Complex Building. As you go in the 'Horseshoe' entrance, it is the second door on the right. It may or may not have INCOMM written on the door, because at various times, they will not want outsiders to know it is the entrance/exit. This is the staff entrance/exit. Wog public come into INCOMM from the Fountain Ave entrance, on the corner of Fountain and LRH Way (across from AOLA building.)

If you were outside the Complex, standing on the steps that slope gently up the main entrance on the Fountain side, (meaning you are standing on the Fountain Ave sidewalk facing the Complex at the middle of the block) then the actual location of the INCOMM computer room for LA, is the section of ground floor building immediately to your left, as you face the Complex. The whole left wall facing the streetside (Fountain Ave) on your left, is the back wall of the LA INCOMM computer room. If you punched through that wall, you'd be in their computer room itself.

So as you come in the Horseshoe entrance, you wind your way through several offices, until you come to the raised computer operations room, which is about 1 ½ feet up from the ground floor. Since the whole computer room area is on the normal computer room raised metal flooring, (like normal wog computer rooms) the floor squares lift up and cabling runs the length and breadth of the INCOMM computer room itself.

You know you are at the INCOMM computer room because it takes up the whole back wall section of the building, raised floor, smoked bullet-proof glass, and screens and so forth and you can see right into the room - where the computer operations officer on duty is sitting, handling the screens monitoring the whole LA computer systems.

The only people allowed in are the operator on duty, INCOMM security, RTC execs, INCOMM execs. Possibly visiting CMO Int terminals, like when there was an INCOMM WDC Member, (for a short time, then the post was nixed, because LRH didn't include INCOMM on the list of areas needing a WDC member over it. Today there is a Computerization Dir RTC over INCOMM, and CMO Int is not above INCOMM at all. That's the way it was last when I was there 1995.)

The INCOMM programmers come to the door occasionally, and I used to let them in, have to be there with them while they were in the operations room, and the programmers would give me their new software, (at that time on floppy disks) and I'd take it and install it.

Also, the INCOMM programmers, during my time, (90-92, and likely up till late 95) would program on a special computer, and then when their programs were tested, a higher INCOMM exec than me would do the tape transfer, or hook up a physical link, and copy the program to the actual user computers. This was all done inside the "middle" big computer room, which held the bulk of the 44 INCOMM WICAT computers at that time period. (Today that big middle computer room I heard is a "tennis court," joke, since the new IBM computers are so small and hold all the disk space that the 44 old INCOMM WICAT mini computers held.)

When I worked at INCOMM, they had about 44 computers - the old 5 foot tall, 2 foot wide, 2 1/2 feet deep, standup WICAT models, which were “mini” computers, meaning they were NOT the old clunky mainframes, but cheaper (only $90 G's each) WICAT mini computers, used for multiple user sites, like for universities, or for faculty and student's use. They are obsolete, and gone today I believe. I think the whole system after the Tom Rummelhart fiasco, was replaced with PC compatible IBM machinery.

I suspect they went to IBM because the top computer guru at INCOMM in the late 80's and early 90's came from IBM in Australia, Paul Wilmshurst, (his wife went SP by the way, Susan Wilmshurst, she's American, he's Australian). As an aside, I recall Paul telling me in private he hacked and screwed up an enemy computer site in the early 90's - like 92 or 93, meaning he hacked into some of the Scn critical sites, and nuked them. He's the guy who did it. Him and my guess would be if anyone else helped him, it would have been James Perry.

But I recall congratulating him on his doing this one time, he being happy to brag a little about this exploit, casually. He's not some big bragger type, he was just proud to have taken out some site. I assume if there has been some problems in the early 90's, he's the main culprit that the church used. It was a one on one conversation, and I sort of pulled it out of him, but he was happy to tell of his exploit. I think he may have even been sent out of the country, and went to Australia for a few weeks, to avoid being questioned about it, when whomever it was that complained. This would have been somewhere between 92 and 95, sorry I can't be more specific. It would be his word against mine.

Other people to ask, who are inside - who would know, would be James Perry and John Dunn, both programmers for the church, and topnotch debuggers of the whole INCOMM Int and LA software systems. They were still with the church as of 2004. I've seen John Dunn on the streets of LA, spoke to him one Sunday morning, (he was the best man at my second marriage, and we were good friends) and I'd see James Perry loading an INCOMM van around the complex in late 2003. Both are the longterm hard working INCOMM stable programmers. Both have been operations officers, and programmers. As you might know, programmers look down on operations officers, as programming is a much higher skill, and only busted programmers end up slumming as computer operations officers (the operations officers having to handle the telephone traffic from users complaining about all sorts of minor gripes and computer glitches on a daily basis).

John Dunn is in LA currently. James Perry is up at the INCOMM Int computer room.

In 1995 I know the INCOMM Int computer room was going to expand or move. I know where it was in 1995, but I cannot vouch it is in the same location.

I cannot vouch for the current backups procedures at INCOMM LA. I used to make the backup tapes at nights and on weekends. I then boxed them up, and Security INCOMM drove them to some warehouse and stored them. I don't know its location, and cannot vouch that they do this. The reasoning for off site storage is fire damage and total destruction of the computers. At least if the tapes of the data on the computers is stored offsite, then all you need to do is buy and set up new computers, and restore the taped computer data, and you are back in business.

An important fact is that the daily backup tapes are kept in the computer room for up to 3 weeks, and then once a month, the Security INCOMM person would take all the tapes in boxes to the outside storage facility. So at all times, in the computer room, you have complete tapes of all data on the computers, sitting on tape racks, with data in those tapes of the whole computer system. That tape rack will always be full of tapes, and always be right there inside (the inside middle) computer room. (There are 3 layers of computer rooms the operations room, the big middle room which held most of the computers, and the far back room which just held more regular computers.) The tapes that are on site at all times, are in the middle big room of computers. All the computers were equally “confidential”. During my stay at INCOMM LA, (90-92, and up to Dec 95, I'd visit occasionally from ASI) INCOMM LA used the WICAT mini computers to hold all the computer systems used by all of the HGB staff.

The HGB basement has a big computer room, which in 1995 was just a relay station from the HGB to the Complex, which I believe was by Microwave dish, from building to building. It might have been by telephone cables, but I think it was by dish. I know that the connection from INCOMM LA to INCOMM INT is via microwave dishes off the top of the Complex aimed towards Mt Wilson, and then Mt Wilson relays them to another site that relays the computer transmissions to INCOMM Int's microwave dish. I don't remember where the dish is at Int, but it's probably observable from aerial photos of the Gold Base, probably up around the Mtns edge. ASI's computer hook up to the HGB system via land cables, and ASI staff thus have message system capability to stay in immediate touch with RTC and CMO Int staff as needed. The ASI computer systems are identical to the LA and Int systems. ASI's software was often better, and very rarely worse, than the same INCOMM software systems at LA and INT.

I can detail all the software systems I can recall in another message. The actual hardware/software locations are: a) Int INCOMM for all the Int stats and data files b) INCOMM LA for all the HGB level and OSA Int level stats and data files, (all the OSA computer data is right there in the LA INCOMM computer room and was when I was there, because OSA is NOT categorized as an Int level org). Although all OSA staff have Int clearances, or did, when I was around, my then wife Janet Beatty (maiden name Parker, 1st married name Findley) had Int clearances, and on SO event days, we'd hang out at Int during the 3 years I was at ASI. (Janet divorced me after 7 years of my being on the RPF and not being done.)

The flow, physical, is microwave from INCOMM LA in the complex, to the HGB and back. Then from the roof of the Complex via microwave to INCOMM Int, via Mt. Wilson microwave relay station, and via another microwave relay station between Mt. Wilson and Int's microwave dish. And ASI to HGB and back via land cables, I think is AT&T.

Then there is CST (Archives, in the Mtns which you probably know, I can't recall, but their location is findable, somewhere in the Mtns around LA I believe), and it I think is hooked up either by microwave or cable to INCOMM LA, and thus to INT, also. Not sure of the exact hookup, but it's either cable or microwave.

My data is Dec 1995.

Oh, just recalled, the Computer Operations guy at CST/Archives, was Wade Starr and he routed out in 1996. Might be a guy to chase down, as he knows a lot of insider stuff on CST, as he had to do all kinds of emergency communication gizmos for CST, which is LRH's baby as far as keeping all the LRH knowledge on those metal plates, etc, which is what LRH wanted his estate $$ to be spent on first priority. Wade was a recalcitrant on leaving, they couldn't handle him. His CST auditor “messed” up on his auditing, and Wade blew; was recovered, and I met up with Wade, we were both on the decks in spring of 1996, (I went to the Int RPF in un 96, Wade routed out.) (I remembered a few names, current CO CST was Russ Bellows, wife Sara Bellows the auditor.)

Back to your question, I have no data on erasing all the data on the new computer system, as I haven't seen it. But the old command, Unix, was “del */*/*.*” and it took a few minutes to run is all. The old program had some stupid dramatic name, but I can't remember it.

INCOMM Int's space was cramped, in the middle villas; the three rooms on the right end of the middle villas building if you are looking at the villas from Bonnyview. It was really a shabby setup, and I know from 95-2000 Int did massive renovations, new CMO Int Building, a new RTC building, and Del Sol was turned into the auditing rooms for staff auditing now, (which means that OGH, Old Gilman House, probably is berthing for fuckups again, like it was off and on in the 80's, but I have no hard data.) When I drove by Gilman Hot Springs in Dec 2003, which I did just because I wanted to see all the new construction, I couldn't see much from the road, due to the trees strategically planted to coverup the CMO Int building and RTC Buildings. I can't say for sure, we need a new Int level defector to help out, but I believe the RTC building is to the east of Bonnyview, and the new CMO Int building is to the west of Bonnyview. I can't say for certain, but I highly believe Bonnyview is still where it was. Although I am not positive that it wasn't renovated/etc. with all this other construction going on. In 1995 bonnyview was the same space, having been renovated 2-3 times since 83, and LRH's Bluebird mobile home was there, at the car garage where 2-3 of LRH's vehicles still were.

INCOMM Int had, while I was there, (and I observed this up until 1995) its own backup tape racks, and the INCOMM LA security guy would come get the INCOMM Int tapes and store them offbase as well. For sure that has changed since the Tom Rummelhart fiasco, (Jan 95) and INCOMM Int stores the Int Base computer tapes off the Int base somewhere, (I would suspect) but I don't know for sure. Rog Kernbach, James Perry or Pat Buglewitz would know that, or could answer that question.

Pat Buglewitz, is THE techie at INCOMM. He has physically been a part of EVERY single step of the physical setup of INCOMM LA, INCOMM space at the HGB, INCOMM ASI, CST's computer setup - EVERY INCOMM physical site. He did the actual physical setups himself. He's been CO INCOMM, he knows everything about everything, and is a VERY good person, easy to work with, great guy. I liked him a lot.

If there is any question about the INCOMM physical system, he knows the answer.

He and Paul Wilmshurst are the two smartest guys and most knowledgeable computer guys at INCOMM.

John Dunn used to be the ASI Computer guy, under DM when DM was at ASI. John Dunn got busted from ASI in 1989. Chris Johnson replaced John, and I replaced Chris (who blew and was recovered; she didn't like being a computer operations person, she's since been busted to Gold.)

The Command lines, are from Computerization Dir RTC (a Dept head in one of the production divs of RTC), to the CO INCOMM. Then INCOMM has a normal 7 Div org board. I think the lady named Cathy ?.. is CO currently. I know by face, a lot of the execs. Pat Buglewitz, and his wife Patrice, (she's always been a DCO or Chief Off or Div head level and always a good exec in INCOMM - personable, not a computer nerd, but an exec type.) Both have been in INCOMM since approximately 1984.

Oh, there is also an INCOMM CW (Clearwater), and it is under the CMO in Clearwater; it was up to 1995. Paul Johnson has been the longtime CW computer person. When RTC execs and Norman Starkey visit CW, we LA or Int or ASI computer operators had to ensure that their “computer message” traffic all flowed to CW, so they could go to the CMO spaces in the WB building, and handle their message traffic (this was in the early 90's I recall). The INCOMM network, message system, software allowed the computer operations officers of the various sites, (ASI, Int, LA, CW) to switch a user's message traffic to land at one site, so the user would get and receive his message traffic at that location. That was just a peculiarity of that INCOMM software at that time. It may or may not be that way software wise now.

I have no data on ANY of the INCOMM software systems since Dec 95, but I know they planned to get RID of all the WICATS, and I am sure they have since then.

I heard someone - oh yeah, an INCOMM member on the PAC RPF, in 2003, tell me that the WICATS were gone, and the big middle computerroom at INCOMM LA was like a tennis court now. The new computers were so reliable, that this computer operations officer didn't have to handle very many phone calls, like I did in the old days of the WICAT systems. (The WICATS were late 80's computers, and very unreliable hardware and software wise, but they were easy to learn, use and program.)

Dan Garvin knows about the standalone table model WICAT computers that OSA used, and the PCs he says they later got themselves and bought off the shelf software to use for their own purposes, (smart of them, as INCOMM programmers took forever, and often came out with faulty programs in the 80's, 90's.)

COB RTC had a standalone WICAT table computer, which I know that Rog Kernbach, the Int INCOMM operator, had set up for COB, (Miscavige) to hold what are called the “COB ASI” advices. These were the advices from LRH to DM when DM was COB ASI.

I took these advices off of the ASI computer, meaning the COB libraries of LRH advices were removed, and I deleted them all off the ASI computers, and put these on tapes and gave them to Rog, who put them on a standalone WICAT (150) standalone table model computer, for COB to hook into them, so no one else could see them. I checked those advices out briefly, and saw nothing particularly sinister about them. If they contained anything nefarious, I missed it. I kept no copies of the “COB” advices at ASI. They are all at RTC last I knew, in Dec 95. Not that this means anything particularly, just shows how Miscavige thinks - like these advices are to him personally, NOT to the COB ASI post, which by the way CEASED to exist the moment Miscavige moved himself from ASI to RTC in 1989. At ASI, it left Norman Starkey as head, from his then post of ED ASI. The COB ASI post ceased to exist on the ASI org board and isn't on the ASI org board as of Dec 95 when I left ASI. That is minimally a minor corporate violation, for an RTC member to remove LRH ASI traffic and take it to another corporation - RTC. Just a little odd, I think. Like Miscavige was ensuring no one moved up to COB ASI post, and thus would have been senior to him. Sort of covering the possibility. Maybe in all my writing so far, this is possibly the most useful bit of data firsthand I have. Confirms Miscavige's tactic of elevating the COB RTC post, and the retroactive action of obliterating the COB ASI post. (I did this in 93, 94 or 95 - make the CO ASI tapes, and remove the COB ASI advices off the ASI computer.) I think I even non-complied, and left the advices somewhere on the ASI computers, out of my dumb sort of rigid "sticking to basic policy" viewpoint, thinking to myself, “what would LRH do?”, and leaving the COB advices on the ASI computer, because they were labeled “COB ASI”.

Chuck Beatty on INCOMM Part 3:

While I was in INCOMM, (1990-92) as a Computer Operations Officer, and likewise at ASI, (1992-1995) as Computer Operations Officer, I was intimately connected with the SIR data bases. These are all of LRH's issues and advices, in computer data bases, so the relevent execs and staff, from middle-management up to top management can access and read LRH source materials. FLO, (Flag Liaison Office) which is in the HGB, (Hollywood Guarantee Buildling) corner of Ivar and Hollywood Blvd, Hollywood - those guys have limited access. They don't have the Int level advices, they don't have any access to ASI, (no one has access to the ASI advices except ASI staff, when I left in Dec 95.) FLO has access to HCOPLs, HCOBs, (but not the controversial non-confidential HCOBs about "Heaven Implants." Those HCOBs are only on the Int base SIR HCOB menu, as of Jan 89, last time I saw the "Heaven Implant" HCOBs on the Int SIR HCOB menu.) FLO has access to FO's, LRH Issues, meaning Flag Ship Orders, Orders of the Day, Central Bureaux Orders (CBOs), Technical Individual Programs (TIPs), various LRH written programs, Ethics Orders, (written by LRH) and various other issues. The OSA staff have their own issues nowadays, which are kept secure to their floor of the HGB, in other words the OSA issues, (which have LRH bylines) don't leave the OSA floor. But the normal HGB staff member on the other floors, all can get computer access to what I said in this paragraph. (I don't recall and don't have data on OSA advices, which I think are only on the Int INCOMM SIR data bases, but I don't remember exactly on them.)

When I was a computer operator at INCOMM LA, the computer room in the complex which I described in my other message to you, I remember the SIR databases were all on one or two INCOMM computer. And the backup tapes for the middle management SIR menus, were separate tapes, which we kept in the computer room. The point being that the full LRH data is physically on tape, in the LA INCOMM computer room, very likely, as we speak now.

At Int, in the Int INCOMM computer room, I was last visting there in Nov 95, the same scenario applied. There would be backup tapes of ALL of the SIR menus on the Int INCOMM computers. INCOMM Int has a considerably greater number of SIR databases. LRH gave advices to ALL of the major units at Int. There are menus for the SIR advice databases which are quite specialized: Cine, Music, Grounds, Exec Strat, CMO Int, (broken down by year groupings I seem to recall, as CMO has A LOT of advices to it;) RTC, (which of course only RTC members can access, and in fact the higher of an org you are in, the more you can gain access to the lower SIR databases;) and there are all sorts of issues LRH wrote that don't really belong at the middle management level, and the guys at Int have these extra categories.

The point is, that both the INCOMM Int and INCOMM LA, both will have tapes of their full SIR databases, at their respective computer rooms. Because it is basic computer room policy to have those tapes nearby, meaning in the same room, or directly adjacent to the room with the computers, that is why I am pretty confident that the SIR database tapes will be at each INCOMM computer room as we speak right now. (It was that way for ALL of the time I was associated with INCOMM Int and INCOMM LA.)

Like I said in my first message, I don't know the actual physical location of the Int INCOMM computer room, if it has moved since I was last there in fall 95. If it hasn't moved, since Dec 95, it would be at the west end of the "middle villas" at the Int base.

When I got busted in Dec 1995, within the first couple sec check questions I was asked, was about did I have anything, like the SIR tapes. Those would have been the hottest items to have taken, I realize now that I am out, and talking to you at this moment.

It would be very difficult, I think, for me when I was there, to even consider walking out with the tapes of the full Int SIR databases. How someone would do so today, I can't imagine there being someone on the inside with the mindset to do so. The INCOMM Int guys when I left in Dec 95, were Rog Kernback and James Perry, and occassionally John Dunn would hang out at the INCOMM Int computer room. I am sure that Pat Buglewitz is intimately familiar with the INCOMM Int computer room, as he physically did most of the physical setup of it. None of them are the defectee type, that I can see. All are married, and their spouses, (except Pat) are at the Int base also. Only John Dunn is single/divorced (as of spring 2004.)

It is only after months and months of reading critics' postings, am I even considering this now. To have ALL of LRH's writings exposed to sift through, would be a good thing, I feel now.

A side story - in 1994, when I was the ASI computer Operations Officer, I was asked to put COB ASI's advices on a pc, so that two ASI staff could work on the advices and proofread them, which is the procedure to ensure that the copies that are installed on the computer are good, and don't have typos etc. I put all the ASI COB advices on this pc, and the two ASI staff did the proofreading, and I copied the proofread advices back off the pc, (personal computer) and I forgot to delete the COB ASI advices off of the pc. Later, a couple months later, that pc I used for something else, like I swapped it out and gave it to another staff member. The pc broke down for some reason, and I then sent the pc out to get fixed, by a wog repairman. I didn't realize that the pc had the COB ASI advices still on the pc, when I sent it out. I freaked. Somehow I caught what I had done. But the pc was in "wog" hands for about 24 hours, and so the COB ASI advices could have been picked up, had the wog known what was there, and had he copied them.

The point is, that staff, make mistakes, like this. This one is pretty rare, but it can happen.

In otherwords raw LRH issues DO sometimes end up right smack dab in the wog world accidentally, due to staff screwups, (and I was at ASI when I made this mistake.) Needless to say, I was thoroughly sec checked on my goof, and I passed, because I was not trying to get the COB ASI advices into "enemy" hands.

Don't know if this data is useful or not.

Best, Chuck Beatty

Average Day before I finally routed out of the Sea Org.

[My diary entry for my final day in the Sea Org: "29 March 2003 "Talk to Mr. C [Kirsten Caetano, my handler for smoothing my exit from the Sea Org] Laundry, dekludge. Get out Sat afternoon, see lawyer [Elliot Abelson], get moved."]

one time mob attorney elliot abelson, now 'scientologist' attorney for scientology

Ex mobster attorney Elliot Abelson, who claims to be a scientologist, now works full time in pursuit of silence.

The missing details of this day are as follows: Got up about 7am, dressed, and me and my watch who slept with me, Lars Asplund takes me down to breakfast in the crew galley in the complex. Watch changes, Urs Spoori, my new watch, accompanies me back to my room, I carry my breakfast with me, as I eat in my nice little 12 by 12 room, which had two great windows, this was 3rd floor, main building of the complex, room directly above the front main entrance to the complex, just above the long wide-stepped entranceway on the Fountain Ave side, in the tallest section of the complex. My room overlooked the long sloped wide-stepped front entrance to the complex.

Ate breakfast and chatted with Urs in our room, we ate together. This gives Lars time to eat breakfast, and do his own thing, hit the bathroom, since that is one of the major bugs of being someone's watch, you can't go off to the bathroom and leave the person you are watching alone, since the person being watched might escape, obviously.

After breakfast, Urs gets replaced by Lars, and Lars and I take what little dirty laundry I have and he accompanies me over to the staff laundry room in the complex, which is in the CTO (Continental Training Org) building. The CTO building used to be the old Bridge building, and the laundry has been in that same place for about 20 years now I believe.

We wait and I read in my room, with my watch accompanying full time as usual. I think I called Mr. Caetano (Kirsten) to see what the deal was. She said it was going to be soon, meaning that day or the next, for sure, this WAS finally IT!! I was about to really get okay.

Lars and I finish my laundry, then I want to go to the library.

We walk, from the complex over to the LA Public Library, at the corner of Franklin and Hillhurst. I insisted on going there almost every other day, my final 2 months in the Sea Org. I went to the library since I wanted to get caught up with the world, since I rationalized I was just killing time, waiting for the bureaucratic approval to route out.. I'd had so many disappointments waiting for okay, at least going to the Library was one thing I could predict and accomplish, and I loved reading, etc., and I started surfing the internet, first for job hunting, later, unbeknownst to the Scn people, I even checked out the anti-LRH sites.

We go to the library, and come back to the complex for lunch. Eat lunch in my room, take our dishes to the dirty dishes room, and head back to the library.

Right after lunch, back at the library, suddenly Mr. Caetano (Kirsten) and Mr. Duvall (the friendly good natured PAC Security guard who deals with the trickier route out or off-load people category that I fell into at this time) they show up. They came into the public library and sort of suddenly right behind me, I didn't notice them, and they tell me I was now going over to OSA, and this was it, the final steps. (This moment was the awkward moment when I just happened to be looking at the Internet at the Library, and I was reading about David Mayo at one of the anti-Scn sites, and Mr. Duvall was slightly taken aback that I was looking at this. Later, I think Lars may have gotten into some trouble for letting me do this, it was something that I gradually accomplished, getting my watches used to my uses of the internet where they didn't see what I was doing exactly, I've posted on that already.)

I got a ride over to OSA with Mr. Duvall and Kirsten, and we go up to the OSA staff floor of the HGB, and into the room with the video camera. Elliot Abelson comes in, all cheery, popping peanuts, red-nosed, and briefs me. He introduces himself, in the course of minor briefing of this legal release I will be signing on video, I tell him I read the New York Times. My intended implication was that I understand the bigger lay of the land wog world where I assumed businesses do similar things like making people sign these legal releases when they leave, but knowing full well that the Buddhist monks and Catholic monks are very unlikely required to sign similar things, and knowing that up to that time in my Sea Org history, I've never heard of any instance of a court enforcing these freedom of speech muzzling legal releases on ex-Sea Org members who have blatantly violated similar releases for decades already, and me thinking that even Elliot would have to ultimately face the intelligent minds of judges and the much smarter NY Times and Wall Street Journal level reporters someday, who would likely put any future Scn legal tactics against me regarding this legal release, in quite candid historical and accurate context.

He reads me the final release legal doc that I give up all my rights to speak about ANYTHING in my Sea Org employment, the normal give up ALL your rights to free speech, etc., and I sign or I initial all pages, etc., while Elliot reads page by page, or the major section titles over the major sections of the release, out loud, all on video.

This was a pretty intense and admittedly significance packed moment, my final moment, in these legal OSA settings, signing away rights, that no normal Buddhist ex-monk or Catholic ex-monk would sign away when they depart their monastic lifetime staff categories, but no matter. Again, Scn does what it does, and our legal system doesn't support this type of activity in certain contexts, and hasn't supported this yet. But our legal system does support Scn legal tactics in other matters. Whatever. The threat was still sitting there in my face. We'll get you if you talk, buddy! That was the message.

The signing to me was the tough veiled threat bargain I'd been led to agreeing to, and I was resigned to this signing because I saw I could get my freedom finally and get back to wog life. I didn't want to upset the cart at this point, because in about two hours I would finally be out of the Sea Org. My plans were NOT to go out flaming. Had I chosen the flaming route, I wouldn't have waited those many extra months. I didn't want to just dash all the ARC that people in the Sea Org had for me, were I to go out as a protesting recalcitrant because that would have surely gotten me labeled suppressive And I opted to take advantage of the help the Sea Org did offer, and I did wish to remain on good terms, simply because I am not of the nature to get into screaming matches with ignorant fellow RPF members who were completely unaware of local law violations, and I did not ever wish my life's events escalate up to me having to actually call the police to protect me from physical restraints, physical restraints I'd seen applied to other RPFers and which I had earlier been threatened with and even personally received in my earlier RPF years already. . (Regarding violating the legal release I signed, I just figured if I did violate it, I'd face that when it came up, and in the future I would follow the high principled good examples of famous wogs in history who throughout history have taken principled stands against oppressive similar circumstances. I knew in my guts someone out there would protect me, should I choose to not adhere to this release I was signing to bargain my way out smoothly. Also I could worry about my then freshly acquired legal predicament with the church later in my life, when I chose to violate this legal release.) This all passed through my head, in the moments I was listening to Elliot and finally signing my legal release form with Elliot. I signed the damn thing. I was almost out now.

It was almost finally over.

On my way out of the OSA floor, I check the halls, see the OSA staff that I will see probably for the last time in my life, Sea Org members who have known me, some for decades, many OSA staff attended my marriage ceremony to one of their own, Janet Findley, 10 years earlier. About 60 OSA staff attended, our marriage, right there in the same building, in the historical "Charlie Chaplain's Office", a room that Charlie Chaplain has somehow been associated with, in earlier years, there in the historic HGB building.. [This last goodbye moment was not really the last for me, because later in the next year, when I was living in Hollywood, I used to switch city buses near the HGB, and I rode my bicycle by the HGB, and I ate gyro sandwiches at Combo's restaurant, across from the HGB, so I was to see dozens of Sea Org members I'd known in my 27 year Sea Org career, this was from 2003 till summer 2004, when I left LA and moved to Pittsburgh, where I live now.] I had mixed feelings of sadness and massive relief, that my life came to that unusual predicament, in that unusual setting, with this piece of paper threatening me with huge amounts of legal fees I would be potentially paying Scn lawyers for violating my agreement to give up my rights to discuss ANY aspect of my lifetime staff life!

Mr. Duvall takes me back to the complex, I load my stuff and he drives me two blocks to the rooming house at 5117 Harold Way, owned by a then LA Foundation staff member, and which housed Scn members only.

On my final walk out of the building I shake hands with my watch, get a few well wishes from my watch, I think I got to say goodbye to all my watches that day, Urs, Lars and two or three other guys who'd been my watches. I walk out the back exit walking by the RPF course room, but when so routing out, there was no goodbyes exchanged with RPFers, I only said goodbye to my watch. I did get to say goodbye I think to Frank Frau, who I'd been on the RPF for over 6 years with. Francesco Frau, good guy.

Mr. Alex Meyers, the PAC RPF I/C was waiting on the sidewalk outside the back entrance at my final moments, and he shook my hand and wished me well, Then I got into the car with Mr. Duvall and he took me to the Scn rooming house, just two blocks away, this was about 4pm, I think, Saturday, Mar 29, 2003.

Once in the rooming house, I got settled in, watched some TV and saw some videos, I hadn't seen TV more than about 6 times in the last over 7 years.

I was finally out, free, able to walk alone, not accompanied by a "watch" for the first time in many months.

It was a seriously good day for me, despite the potential loss of signing away my rights to speak and write about my life. Just being out, finally, after having spent a total of over 18 months, trying to get out, over the two periods I had tried to get out of the Sea Org, it was a massive final relief of accomplishment.

This was most of my final moments in the Sea Org, typical last day.

More typical days I will write up in the next post.

Best, Chuck Beatty

PS: At top, the photo of me, was the next weekend, on top of Griffith Park, overlooking LA.

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